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A gift to you guys from TOTAL ANNIHILATION
Publié: 26 juin 2002 09:02

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Cybermoose

Re: A gift to you guys from TOTAL ANNIHILATION
Publié: 26 juin 2002 09:03

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oooooooooo Flashback!!!!!!! Im sure some of the older people (in the sense
of being in these two ng's a while) can remember the hugh cross-posting war
crap that went on between us.

Oh the memorys.

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> ****** FROM LSHAPING: ******
>
>
> Real Timed Strategy
>
>
> The Basics:
>
> Required ingredients.
> ...queuing
> ...selection size limit
> ...subgrouping
> ...timing device

Eric Byers

Re: A gift to you guys from TOTAL ANNIHILATION
Publié: 26 juin 2002 09:42

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On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 08:03:00 +0100, "Cybermoose"
<Cybermoose@ntlworld.com> muttered something along the lines of:

>oooooooooo Flashback!!!!!!! Im sure some of the older people (in the sense
>of being in these two ng's a while) can remember the hugh cross-posting war
>crap that went on between us.
>
>Oh the memorys.

Which was pretty redundant in itself, as Total Annihilation is nothing
but a piece of putrid crap...

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Da Wrecka

Re: A gift to you guys from TOTAL ANNIHILATION
Publié: 26 juin 2002 10:19

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"SHONNER" <shonner@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3d192b25$1_2@news.vic.com...
> ****** FROM LSHAPING: ******
<snip pointless garbage about bullshit "timing">

You DO realise impersonating another person is illegal in just about every applicable
jurisdiction of law, don't you LShaping?

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Moen

Re: A gift to you guys from TOTAL ANNIHILATION
Publié: 26 juin 2002 17:16

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On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 08:03:00 +0100, "Cybermoose"
<Cybermoose@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> oooooooooo Flashback!!!!!!! Im sure some of the older people (in the sense
> of being in these two ng's a while) can remember the hugh cross-posting war
> crap that went on between us.
>
> Oh the memorys.

Ah, the two most recent wars. I believe it was just before I left for
the army. Needless to say, I didn't participate much, but I did watch
the onslaught with a certain degree of pleasure. Perhaps it prepared me
for the army?

Ramen \ Clever Subname\ Junkie

Re: A gift to you guys from TOTAL ANNIHILATION
Publié: 26 juin 2002 18:20

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"SHONNER" <shonner@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> ****** FROM LSHAPING: ******
>
>
> Real Timed Strategy

Total Annihilation has shitty computer AI. The computer always just attacks
with it's general in the first five minutes instead of building an army then
he's crippled after I kill his only unit producer.

Eric Byers

Re: A gift to you guys from TOTAL ANNIHILATION
Publié: 26 juin 2002 20:02

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On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 16:20:25 GMT, "Ramen \"Clever Subname\" Junkie"
<lameazoid@gamebox.netten> muttered something along the lines of:

>Total Annihilation has shitty computer AI. The computer always just attacks
>with it's general in the first five minutes instead of building an army then
>he's crippled after I kill his only unit producer.

Hmm, I remember that too...then he blew up half your base when he got
killed...

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**Scorched**

Re: A gift to you guys from TOTAL ANNIHILATION
Publié: 26 juin 2002 23:00

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"Eric Byers" <eihjelmt@NOSPAMonline.no> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 16:20:25 GMT, "Ramen \"Clever Subname\" Junkie"
> <lameazoid@gamebox.netten> muttered something along the lines of:
>
> >Total Annihilation has shitty computer AI. The computer always just
attacks
> >with it's general in the first five minutes instead of building an army
then
> >he's crippled after I kill his only unit producer.
>
> Hmm, I remember that too...then he blew up half your base when he got
> killed...
>

Actually I still play that game on a LAN now and then, with a few bonus
units I got of the internet (player created ones - super huge walking tanks
etc).... it is still quite fun

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Eric Byers

Re: A gift to you guys from TOTAL ANNIHILATION
Publié: 27 juin 2002 00:19

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On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 22:00:10 +0100, "**Scorched**"
<scorched@hotmail.com> muttered something along the lines of:

>Actually I still play that game on a LAN now and then, with a few bonus
>units I got of the internet (player created ones - super huge walking tanks
>etc).... it is still quite fun

Oh, what do you know...you're not even bright enough to appreciate
Warcraft...

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Steven Ung

Re: A gift to you guys from TOTAL ANNIHILATION
Publié: 27 juin 2002 02:37

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"Eric Byers" <eihjelmt@NOSPAMonline.no> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 22:00:10 +0100, "**Scorched**"
> <scorched@hotmail.com> muttered something along the lines of:
>
> >Actually I still play that game on a LAN now and then, with a few bonus
> >units I got of the internet (player created ones - super huge walking
tanks
> >etc).... it is still quite fun

>
> Oh, what do you know...you're not even bright enough to appreciate
> Warcraft...

I agree. Anyone who is not good with microing / fast enough, will find
Multiplayer WarCraft III extremely difficult to play.

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Ramen \ Clever Subname\ Junkie

Re: A gift to you guys from TOTAL ANNIHILATION
Publié: 27 juin 2002 03:33

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"Eric Byers" <eihjelmt@NOSPAMonline.no> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 16:20:25 GMT, "Ramen \"Clever Subname\" Junkie"
> <lameazoid@gamebox.netten> muttered something along the lines of:
>
> >Total Annihilation has shitty computer AI. The computer always just
attacks
> >with it's general in the first five minutes instead of building an army
then
> >he's crippled after I kill his only unit producer.
>
> Hmm, I remember that too...then he blew up half your base when he got
> killed...

Yeah. Kind of annoying if he takes out your leader too.

Moen

Re: A gift to you guys from TOTAL ANNIHILATION
Publié: 27 juin 2002 11:49

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On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 08:37:36 +0800, "Steven Ung" <steven@gtekmy.po.my>
wrote:

> I agree. Anyone who is not good with microing / fast enough, will find
> Multiplayer WarCraft III extremely difficult to play.

To a certain extent, perhaps. But microing has been made a lot more
convenient by using subgroups, tab to move between groups, etc. You also
have far fewer units to handle.

Overall, I don't think it is more diffcult than SC. It certainly is more
convenient!

Marco

Re: A gift to you guys from TOTAL ANNIHILATION
Publié: 27 juin 2002 13:38

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Moen wrote:

> On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 08:37:36 +0800, "Steven Ung" <steven@gtekmy.po.my>
> wrote:
>
>> I agree. Anyone who is not good with microing / fast enough, will
>> find Multiplayer WarCraft III extremely difficult to play.
>
> To a certain extent, perhaps. But microing has been made a lot more
> convenient by using subgroups, tab to move between groups, etc. You
> also have far fewer units to handle.
>
> Overall, I don't think it is more diffcult than SC. It certainly is
> more convenient!

I must say that StarCraft has the worst interface I have ever seen in an
RTS. So cumbersome and requiring so much micromanagement unneccesarily.
Especially if you are used to Total Annihilation's interface which
makes it very easy to control/queue huge numbers of units. It's fairly
difficut for me to understand why so many people play SC. Well, huge
numbers of people think Britney Spears and Madonna are great too - so
maybe not so hard to understand?

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Da Wrecka

Re: A gift to you guys from TOTAL ANNIHILATION
Publié: 27 juin 2002 14:05

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"Ramen "Clever Subname" Junkie" <lameazoid@gamebox.netten> wrote in message
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> > Hmm, I remember that too...then he blew up half your base when he got
> > killed...
>
> Yeah. Kind of annoying if he takes out your leader too.

That's why you set up a small shedload of Berthas/Intimidators ASAP, to blast him out
of existence before he gets close enough

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Moen

Re: A gift to you guys from TOTAL ANNIHILATION
Publié: 27 juin 2002 16:06

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On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 11:38:11 GMT, Marco <marcosbox@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I must say that StarCraft has the worst interface I have ever seen in an
> RTS.

Strange, then, that it became so popular. It must be because it requires
some work to master properly.

> So cumbersome and requiring so much micromanagement unneccesarily.

Perhaps many like this.

> Especially if you are used to Total Annihilation's interface which
> makes it very easy to control/queue huge numbers of units. It's fairly
> difficut for me to understand why so many people play SC.

Perhaps because it was (and perhaps still is) unique and fresh, and
brought something new to the RTS world, such as three vastly different
races, and they are even balanced well. Also, the true value is when you
always learn something new or find new tricks, and you feel that you are
starting to master the game.

Perhaps other games just don't cut it. Perhaps they aren't as satisfying
in the long run.